Maybe VR isn't dead after all... - Valve Index Review

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  • Phillipe
    Phillipe Vor 6 Tage +2454

    Oculus Rift S, anyone? Linus forgot to mention it entirely!!!!!!! No need for extra cameras at all, for $ 400, it’s a good VR headset...

    • Darron Edwards
      Darron Edwards Vor 6 Stunden

      @Zenroy Other way around for me chap, had the Lenovo WMR and it was pretty dire IMO ....sold it and bought a Rift S....a lot more compatibility and it just works. Each to their own though.

    • J cook
      J cook Vor 6 Stunden

      @mrrip inc. Agreed! and for the money its a deal! but i did notice the 80hz over the 90hz in beat saber, and the worst part of rift-S is the HEADPHONES!!!!!!!! GARBAGE!!!!!!! that alone makes me want to take it back and get the index.

    • David Bixler
      David Bixler Vor 8 Stunden

      @mrrip inc. once in a while I have tracking fallout, but a quick close and reopen of the Oculus app on Windows and it typically fixes itself. There is also a controller bug with the right controller showing up extra controllers that don't exist and once in a while pairing gets glitched.
      MAKE SURE you are using a USB 3 port for this, if you accidentally plug it in to a 2+ port, it'll have lots of issues and bugs until you move it. Powered hubs also are unreliable.

    • David Bixler
      David Bixler Vor 8 Stunden

      @Zenroy what didn't you like about it?

    • David Bixler
      David Bixler Vor 8 Stunden

      @Linus Tech Tips hell I'd loan you mine and suffer for a few weeks just to get a review.

  • RubberBoa
    RubberBoa Vor 41 Sekunde

    Why was the cat inside the box?

  • 2ndLastJedi
    2ndLastJedi Vor Stunde


  • 2ndLastJedi
    2ndLastJedi Vor Stunde

    How far down the road can you see in say Assetto Corsa or Project CARS 2? I sold my Rift because I didn't like how far I could see in racing Sims.

  • Toxically Masculine
    Toxically Masculine Vor Stunde

    gosh nice gimbal

  • CybershamanX
    CybershamanX Vor Stunde

    (11:40) Heh. Linus is all out of breath. ;) Yeah, I wonder how much people actually consistently play their full body VR games. Every time I see someone play, they get tired pretty quick. :P

  • Patrox92
    Patrox92 Vor Stunde

    Pimax 5K+ is also really nice VR headset if u want 170 horizontal FOV. If u try once u never gonna back to 120 FOV ;)

  • Denu 187
    Denu 187 Vor Stunde

    $1000 for a VR headset to play crappy indie games... what a huge lol

  • Moustache Spy
    Moustache Spy Vor 2 Stunden

    Why didnt you play the actual hands demo? You mostly played games that barely support the index. You also neglected to mention that the fingertracking improves over time with sustained use

  • dwkwb8
    dwkwb8 Vor 2 Stunden +1

    980ti??? Shame.

  • Ben Vernon
    Ben Vernon Vor 2 Stunden

    My god, cats are such dicks. Why do people own them? 🤦‍♂️😑

  • Hamish Hannay
    Hamish Hannay Vor 2 Stunden

    Cat not include 😆 darn

  • Riasat Salmin  Sami
    Riasat Salmin Sami Vor 2 Stunden

    When will vr get variable refresh rate support?

  • checkmate
    checkmate Vor 3 Stunden

    All of this sounds WAY too complicated to me to actually be fun.

  • Joseph Cavender JR
    Joseph Cavender JR Vor 4 Stunden

    Can the value index controllers be used with the vive

  • Hytrozion
    Hytrozion Vor 4 Stunden

    what is the utility of cameras in the front of the headset ?

  • Renato Medeiros
    Renato Medeiros Vor 4 Stunden

    why don't they do controls with a real glove controls?

  • William Lawrence
    William Lawrence Vor 4 Stunden

    Rfit S was a huge upgrade over the original Rift, should review that!

  • Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden Vor 5 Stunden

    Neeeerd. good review though

  • Feint
    Feint Vor 5 Stunden

    IF you don't have any VR headset but you have a powerful gaming computer, are there any VR games that justify the 1000 USD investment? So far, the only game that looks worth it IMHO is Lone Echo which is an Oculus title. Sure, you can use something to allow you to play Oculus titles on Steam VR headsets, but aren't there control mapping problems?

  • trinitrotoulen
    trinitrotoulen Vor 5 Stunden

    Hey Linus, can you play war thunder #warthunder with that headset ? thank you

  • Sidney Candido
    Sidney Candido Vor 5 Stunden

    Linus, I know someday or another you're going to review the HP Reverb, can you do us a favor of including racing/flight games on the review? I think the Reverb might be perfect for those seated experiences, but I want your opinion

  • Muhammad hiari
    Muhammad hiari Vor 6 Stunden +1

    0:57 wow a segue that makes sense

  • andrew szerbiak
    andrew szerbiak Vor 6 Stunden

    So Linus wishes for a strapon experience? Interesting.

  • J cook
    J cook Vor 6 Stunden

    he doesn't play BS on EX+.

  • Edward Roy
    Edward Roy Vor 7 Stunden

    Damn he has a nose most Jews would envy

  • Andy Ackerman
    Andy Ackerman Vor 7 Stunden

    I had no idea that you were into a strap on experience. Not judging.

  • Chase H
    Chase H Vor 7 Stunden

    If you aren't impressed by the finger tracking in "supported" games, just wait until Boneworks from Stress Level Zero comes out on Steam. They have some amazing work being done over there. I'm hoping other game developers will follow suite.

  • hum bug
    hum bug Vor 7 Stunden

    When Half Life VR comes out in a few months these should sell better.

  • Andrej Naumoski
    Andrej Naumoski Vor 8 Stunden

    If this headset was 400 dollars and the oculus rift like 200 dollars vr would be widely accepted and used by now.
    Vr is cool, all it needs to be is cheaper.

  • TheStig ZeroZeroZero
    TheStig ZeroZeroZero Vor 8 Stunden

    Does it come with a cat? Cool!

  • Chris Borg
    Chris Borg Vor 8 Stunden

    3:38 love the linuscattips product placment

  • Grendel _
    Grendel _ Vor 9 Stunden

    And the like goes to the kitten :)

  • Clash Royale
    Clash Royale Vor 9 Stunden

    Htc Cosmos :\, guys the Cosmos!!!

  • ItsJustMe Mildoze
    ItsJustMe Mildoze Vor 9 Stunden +1 Suddenly LTT turned into Linus Cat Tips

  • Ecchiboy Gaming
    Ecchiboy Gaming Vor 9 Stunden

    Blade and sorcery is the best game for testing vr.

  • DarklingGolem50
    DarklingGolem50 Vor 9 Stunden

    I bought one and I'm returning it tomorrow because it didn't come with a cat

  • Helltech
    Helltech Vor 10 Stunden

    I *really* can't trust Linus' opinion on VR anymore. As a Rift S, Pimax 5K+, and an Index owner, I can say that I still prefer my Pimax to the other two, though it is heavily modded to make it better (because it is shit out of the box). For example, using the Vive Deluxe Audio Strap and of course using Index Controllers.
    Also the fact he is blown away by the clarity makes me feel he never gave the Pimax a shot because he wouldn't be blown away if he did.

  • Robert Mastrobattista
    Robert Mastrobattista Vor 11 Stunden


  • Akira Hiroshi
    Akira Hiroshi Vor 11 Stunden

    If VR dies, so do I.

  • Hlspwns World
    Hlspwns World Vor 13 Stunden

    Linus I have to totally agree with everything that you have said, but currently having the Oculus Rift, even though my system and display is now 4K and I fall into the category of someone who wants the index, it's still a lot of money to completely upgrade. The Rift S is attractive due to its ease of use and much lower price, but imo and yours the index is king. A small price drop (Half Life 3) would be a real clincher, for now i'll be holding on to my Rift for a bit longer I think. What about the Cosmos???????

  • Alex Buckenham
    Alex Buckenham Vor 13 Stunden

    No-one thought VR was dead but LTT. Biggest evangelists before the rift came out then just declared it dead.

  • Z/dos
    Z/dos Vor 14 Stunden

    "Depending on what your doing in VR" ;)

  • duked19
    duked19 Vor 14 Stunden

    Hmmm... at 3:43 the frunk suddenly and magically disappears for a few secs. =0

  • duked19
    duked19 Vor 15 Stunden

    During the past years, you should have upgraded your Vive with Deluxe Audio Strap, Wireless adapter and joystick addon for the Vive wands. Such a difference. Vive is (unfortumately) still one of the best VR-headsets out there thanks to the blacks, brightness, binocular overlap, Hz, games, tracking, and decent FOV. (duked's tech tips)

  • Virjoinga
    Virjoinga Vor 15 Stunden

    I wish I could afford this, at least I have my Oculus Rift CV1 for the meantime :D

  • Null Null
    Null Null Vor 17 Stunden

    Mouse cursor on screen, duh

  • General Obi-Wan Kenobi
    General Obi-Wan Kenobi Vor 17 Stunden

    Literally no one was saying VR was dead.

  • SpiderUsman1254
    SpiderUsman1254 Vor 17 Stunden +1

    What about the Oculus Quest?

  • Everett Ward
    Everett Ward Vor 19 Stunden

    The cat in the box.... was alive.

  • loktar
    loktar Vor 20 Stunden

    Great review, but as an owner of the Vive/Rift the only way I'm upgrading is for wireless at this point. That's the real game changer.

  • Wry
    Wry Vor 20 Stunden

    I don't believe GORN has proper full finger tracking support yet, it has preset combinations of buttons that represent a few hand expressions as you saw. Please find a proper game or maybe even a tech demo to show off the controllers.

  • pokeface119
    pokeface119 Vor 20 Stunden

    I liked the Dell Mixed Reality, despite what "Reviewers" say, it was a LOT sturdier than it seems and over 2 years of punching walls full force over and over again it still hasn't broke xD
    (I also like how it has no limits on play space and you don't need to set it up like other VR sets, as well as liking the 300$ price tag on Newegg making it probably the cheapest 6 dimensional headset with controllers. The display is fantastic as well.)

  • Alex Flockhart
    Alex Flockhart Vor 20 Stunden

    They are still using fresnel lenses? I'd much rather have clearer picture and a bit more weight

    STOPYOURCLICKBAIT Bruh Vor 20 Stunden +3

    Lmao got a quest cause I don’t have a $ 2000
    Pc lmao

  • Mexican Mario
    Mexican Mario Vor 21 Stunde

    so can you play piano with these controllers

  • Joe Dirt
    Joe Dirt Vor 21 Stunde

    Had the Index and loved it and its for sure the better HMD but the controllers are overrated and the "finger tracking" is analog and feels as such so might as well have physical buttons for each finger, prob would be more accurate to use.
    I sent my Index back because my PDI is like 2 points wider then their max plus its def not worth $1000, maybe $700 max and the lack of content for it, VR in general. 5 years maybe VR will be gold with better pc's and better displays and true VR content, ill try VR again.

  • KrazyKrzysztof
    KrazyKrzysztof Vor 22 Stunden

    vr games are pretty shit but pron must be amazing on this beast

  • Rustley
    Rustley Vor 23 Stunden

    Yeah yeah yeah, we get it, 1000 dollar valve index it's real cool and all... But where's the Oculus quest coverage? 400 dollars, no PC or phone or console needed, it's all in the headset already, no baystations or cameras needed, really good inside out tracking that's 1000x better than WMR tracking, there's some really nice rift ports on it, what about that?

  • Gucci
    Gucci Vor 23 Stunden

    Linus been hitting the gym?

  • fNatyk
    fNatyk Vor 23 Stunden

    11:59 Great sound bite..

  • fNatyk
    fNatyk Vor 23 Stunden

    HIDE THE CAT! Alinity is on her way!

  • Hüseyin Arslan
    Hüseyin Arslan Vor Tag

    120 Hertz test without a real FPS like Pavlov

  • MrBizaaro
    MrBizaaro Vor Tag

    When can we reliably play games like GTA 5, COD in VR ? 5 years ?

    • Feint
      Feint Vor 5 Stunden

      Someone was working on a GTA V VR mod, but stopped because it was too traumatic. He said he felt like a murderer playing it. You can already play a few regular games like space and racing games like Assetto Corsa, ACC, Project Cars 2, Elite Dangerous, Space Engine, and a bunch of others. The issue is a lot of those games aren't made for 3D and for using hand controllers and something that looks OK in 2D like models, textures and lighting will look flat and weird in 3D.

  • Kenneth Donnelly cat does the same thing with my tv and pc

  • Jarrett Kushner
    Jarrett Kushner Vor Tag

    Why does he need so many things in his pockets

  • Daniel Becker
    Daniel Becker Vor Tag

    Hey Linus! Could you do a video on No Man’s Sky VR! It’s my favorite game even though I’m having stuttering issues. Maybe you can solve why some get it running fine while others don’t on similar setups. I’m on Rift S, 16gb, gtx1080ti, i5 6600k, all water cooled. Any help would be greatly appreciated! 😁👍

  • Demoin Mokratie
    Demoin Mokratie Vor Tag

    19:43 he aims exactly at the camera

  • Michael Pattison

    I'm still waiting for iris tracking in a VR headset before I upgrade. Having accurate depth of field will help a lot with motion sickness and headaches.

  • DJH316007
    DJH316007 Vor Tag

    Do they all come with a kitten included?

  • Asher Grossman
    Asher Grossman Vor Tag

    Are you going to try the quest?

  • josh6499
    josh6499 Vor Tag

    That title... Shame.

  • Ten8yp
    Ten8yp Vor Tag

    Nope... its definitely dead. Was Dead on Arrival... several times.

  • Sneakybreeki
    Sneakybreeki Vor Tag

    I didn't ever think I needed to see Linus playing Beat Saber until now lmao.

  • The Editor AMVs
    The Editor AMVs Vor Tag

    3:32 And... there's a cat.

  • Fouren Fouren
    Fouren Fouren Vor Tag

    It would be cool if they made a glove who can act like hands in the game. Talking about dust tho, you do need to clean your house just saying altho i can imagine that it's so hard to clean a house that big.

  • Playn Vanilla
    Playn Vanilla Vor Tag

    "I still do wish that it was more of a... a strap-on experience..." - Linus Sebastian 2019 (#iheartlinus)

  • Clanner Jake
    Clanner Jake Vor Tag

    i wish valve gave me free stuff cause i was a failed bieber clone.

  • Last Requiem
    Last Requiem Vor Tag +1

    According to his roast, linus likes the "strap-on experience" 😉

  • Shadow747
    Shadow747 Vor Tag

    Wait what? when did it even die

  • deliriumDrew_PSVR #thegamecat

    Oh fucking GAWD what a horrible clickbait VR ain’t dead title. VR games have gotten better every fucking month. Take a look at what Sony has done with their underpowered PC. #exclusively awesome. Best place for VR multiplayer. I know PC players that have like 5 VR friends. I got over 100 VR friends on PSN

  • Confused Raccoon

    How is it for seated stuff like Elite, Truck sims, project cars, dirt or other sims?

  • Gliffy
    Gliffy Vor Tag

    Isnt VR really bad for kids?

  • James Blaine
    James Blaine Vor Tag

    So do I get an adorable kitty with mine when I unbox it to :D

  • Somiaz
    Somiaz Vor Tag +1

    Was the cat included with product? Including shipping? 🤔

  • Steve Stid
    Steve Stid Vor Tag

    He wishes it was a bit more of a strapon experience. Linus and pegging LOL

  • taelok
    taelok Vor Tag

    15:22 hey there, cameraman!

  • Jeff G
    Jeff G Vor Tag

    I've had the Gear VR for my Note 4 and Note 8, I currently have the PSVR, an Oculus Go, a Vive Focus, a Samsung Odyssey, the original Vive and just upgraded to the Vive Pro. Comparing the newest system out there to the first gen Vive leaves a ton of systems between the two out of the picture. I get excited when I see a new VR come out, I got the Samsung because of the upgrade in resolution to the original Vive. I'm honestly wondering if this is a big enough upgrade to ditch the Vive Pro for.

  • HiddenHippo TTV
    HiddenHippo TTV Vor Tag

    that was 1 sophisticated test, thanks loved it :-) ur mission impossible cat in the background also,, umm dont think kittens r the best idea when ur a full on techy, mind u ur routing of cables etc is supperb, kittens would die in my bedroom my cablings so bad, i trip over the main 1 almost everyday, do need some of those sticky things i saw u brought in previous singapore video, gonna get on ebay, amazon :-D

  • NurRa Jaie
    NurRa Jaie Vor Tag

    Not once, but twice i was surprised by the cats
    How the heck onbox a cat?
    And "shadow" is clearly a Linus's cat, its knock stuff off

  • vexorian
    vexorian Vor Tag

    It''s pretty dead, Linus.

  • Seags 98
    Seags 98 Vor Tag

    Spends 1000 dollars on vr headset “it has finger tracking” puts middle finger up immediately😂

  • Gianmarco Gargiulo

    I still don't really believe in VR gaming. There are still a lot of limits and very few games.

  • Tressa J
    Tressa J Vor Tag

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    Maybe VR isn't dead after all... - Valve Index Review
    I met those laughing, fierce hazel eyes. Cassian’s smile softened. “Hello, Feyre.” My throat tightened to the point of pain, and I threw my arms around his neck, embracing him tightly. “I missed you, too,” Cassian murmured, squeezing me.
    When, in the street, I see a mother walking with her grown-up daughter, I can hardly bear to witness the mother’s pride, the softening of her face, her incredulous joy at being granted her daughter’s company; and the iron discipline she imposes on herself, to muffle and conceal this joy.

  • Albin Jabłoński

    Linus can you get your hands on HAPTX gloves? They are easily the most advanced and realistic option on the market, featuring resistance and tactile feedback.

  • Not Shure
    Not Shure Vor Tag

    Too bad, but these are made for people with normal eye sight and no extra disadvantages. :(

  • Shahadat Bin Islam

    3:33 does it come with a cat

  • X Fade
    X Fade Vor Tag

    So unenthousiastic :/

  • Isaac Boentoro
    Isaac Boentoro Vor Tag



    I love Cats.